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cold storage compatibility issues

Hello, I have been a fan of electrum because of its offline capability. I like that I can use Bitcoin while storing my private keys on a computer that has the wifi card removed and hot glue stuffed in the Ethernet port. However it looks like maybe the electrum developers have over-promised and under-delivered in this regard. Or, maybe they simply do not have the time, energy, resources to make this work in real life.
Let me explain. I have an old-ass computer that is running Ubuntu 12 (precise), this computer has electrum 2.5.4 installed with a cold-storage wallet that has my private key.
I want to send some bitcoin from that address to a new wallet on my desktop so I can spend the bitcoin. So I installed electrum (newest version 3.3.8) on my desktop, imported the bitcoin address, and created a transaction. Then I sent the transaction to the offline computer out of band, and verified that the out-of-band transmission worked by comparing the hash of the txn file on both the offline and online machines. Then I tried to open the txn file on the offline machine with Electrum 2.5.4. Well, guess what, it didn't work. Electrum 2.5.4 printed to the console:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/uslocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Electrum-2.5.4-py2.7.egg/electrum_gui/qt/main_window.py", line 2261, in do_process_from_file
self.show_transaction(tx)
File "/uslocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Electrum-2.5.4-py2.7.egg/electrum_gui/qt/main_window.py", line 577, in show_transaction
show_transaction(tx, self, tx_desc)
File "/uslocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Electrum-2.5.4-py2.7.egg/electrum_gui/qt/transaction_dialog.py", line 37, in show_transaction
d = TxDialog(tx, parent, desc, prompt_if_unsaved)
File "/uslocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Electrum-2.5.4-py2.7.egg/electrum_gui/qt/transaction_dialog.py", line 48, in __init__
self.tx.deserialize()
File "/uslocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Electrum-2.5.4-py2.7.egg/electrum/transaction.py", line 523, in deserialize
d = deserialize(self.raw)
File "/uslocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Electrum-2.5.4-py2.7.egg/electrum/transaction.py", line 454, in deserialize
d[inputs] = list(parse_input(vds) for i in xrange(n_vin))
OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long
That's pretty frustrating, the first thing I tried was to install Electrum 2.5.4 on my Desktop and try to create a new unsigned transaction with Electrum 2.5.4. However, this is a no-go because old versions of Electrum cannot connect to Electrum servers any more. So I have to try to update the Electrum on the Offline computer. But I'm not even sure if this is possible considering how ubuntu 12 it's definitely out of support at this point and the offline computer does not even have python3 installed, let alone the GTK stuff or whatever is probably required to run Electrum.
I'm starting to regret choosing a GUI-based wallet for my offline storage considering how hard it is to actually use this and how it simply melts over time... even just 5 years is is enough time to completely melt and destroy this software and make it un-usable. Time Catches All. So now I have to go out and buy a new computer that can run the updated OS, so I can install the new version of Electrum, so I can access my bitcoin.
Do you have any other ideas? Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
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Homelab collective ressources post!

Hey guys!
I'm fairly new to this sub and to having a home lab in general and I found this community to be so kind and helping, I wanted to give back what I've learned. I'm seeing a lot of questions asked around on improvements and on what to do with x extra hardware so I thought it would be nice to have a thread to regroup that.
 
I'll put here some stuff I gathered and the most common questions I've seen, feel free to contribute and i'll update the post along.
 
Latest Additions
 
Homelab Dashboard
Posts about dashboards have been growing lately and here are some of the best that were kind enough to provide us with their sources.
User Screenshot Source
yours truly http://imgur.com/a/GhCNH https://github.com/Gabisonfire/dashboard-q
lastditchefrt http://i.imgur.com/5zQdao4.png https://github.com/d4rk22/Network-Status-Page
_SleepingBag_ http://i.imgur.com/Ql9ZM4W.png https://github.com/jsank/homelabdash
NiknakSi https://niknak.org/extras/sysinfo TBA
DainBramaged http://imgur.com/jYNlUEQ https://github.com/gordonturneBigBoard
michaelh4u https://i.imgur.com/XkZwMKj.png https://github.com/michaelh4u/homelabfrontpage
spigotx http://imgur.com/a/1zMht https://github.com/spigotx/HomeLab2
SirMaster https://nicko88.com/ https://github.com/dashbad/plex-server-status
yourofl10 http://imgur.com/a/AyROa TBA
TheBobWiley http://imgur.com/a/oU6d3 https://github.com/TheBobWiley/ManageThis-LandingPages
0110010001100010 http://i.imgur.com/iwtQcsL.jpg https://github.com/danodemano/monitoring-scripts
mescon & SyNiK4L https://i.imgur.com/gqdVM6p.jpg https://github.com/mescon/Muximux
ak_rex http://i.imgur.com/a/RJkrT https://github.com/ak-rex/homelab-dashboard
 
Or build yours from scratch: PRTG API, ELK, Grafana, freeboard, JumpSquares
 
Some other resources: Custom Monitoring Scripts by 0110010001100010
 
Credits to apt64 for his original post
= Pi specific =
 
= Download Automation =
 
= Virtualization =
 
= Monitoring =
 
= Media Center =
 
= Remote access =
 
= VOIP =
 
= Networking =
 
= File Servers/Storage/RAID =
 
= Cameras =
 
= Documentation =
 
= Dynamic DNS =
 
= Backup =
 
= Creating network diagrams =
 
= Guides =
 
= Misc =
 
That's all I could come up with on top of my head + some research, passing over to you guys so we can get a nice complete list!
 
Let's try and stick with free(or mostly) softwares, let me know if you guys feel otherwise.
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[ELI5] How to send coins using Coinb.in

How to send coins from ANY wallet using https://coinb.in/#settings

Why?

Because cold wallets, such as those stored offline in a text file as I keep recommending in my standard advice below:
All you need is a text file to put your wallets in, like this example from https://walletgenerator.net/?currency=Dogecoin
1,"D7WBUpdgLRtG6WyPsqjhaKiJR65X8ZGnkZ","6KieLMW1poAzNVnmLuQZqA262gxEQ51eLGdDK8e2GL2B4LHCKKb" 2,"DM8LT16d49zHr8ByXbUwZb9UBXDGMaZRdc","6Ktgxdv6vN9v2bDHwcJBBb3oMRAgXJumESzBnxaXUSGFZoq6pWQ" 3,"D5UCa51AfxjtVHQ46oYXe2YfkctTeLXPhx","6L2WSPWadRYCwt2L1CxH6zC7PoTYY3KyjxdiUoCqi5eyq6hQKvj"
Use https://coinb.in/#settings to move coins. Download both sites and run them offline. Use https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/ to check balances and transactions. See http://www.mocacinno.com/blog/create-sign-broadcast-transactions-using-coinb/ for coinb.in tutorial. And read the ELI5s (and my history) for more info.
Are without doubt THE SAFEST way to store your coins. Plus, they consume no resources. No bandwidth, no network stress for every node we have, no storage of 20Gb+ blockchains, no weeks of waiting for things to sync, no tearing your hair out and posting desperate pleas for help, and most importantly, no coins irretrievably lost because you or your client screwed up.

What?

Wallets, ALL WALLETS are nothing but numbers. Very large numbers, but fundamentally no different from “7”, “42”, “911” or a phone number. They cannot be created nor destroyed, and you either know them or you don’t. Anyone who knows a key can use it to spend any coins it controls. Anyone who doesn’t know it, can’t. Don’t be the guy who doesn’t know his own keys. Keep them safe. Make copies. Keep those safe. Don’t let your friends, kid brother or random burglar find them, but don’t lose them either.
The only other thing you need for a fully functional wallet is a way to spend coins. Coinb.in is such a way. There are others, such as DogeCoinMultiSig.org which tomcarbon built.
Oh, and you can and should download it and run it locally.

Where?

The default entry point for coinb.in is https://coinb.in/#settings because this settings page is very well hidden. Its in the tiny gear wheel on the Broadcast page.
Looking across the top of the page, you can see
  • + New
  • Verify
  • Sign
  • Broadcast
  • Wallet
  • About
We’re only going to use three of these. New, Sign, Broadcast.
Now, keep in mind that coinb.in is an old Bitcoin tool which tomcarbon added Dogecoin to. Sometimes it thinks its dealing with Bitcoin still, so if you see anything odd, go and make sure you’ve selected Dogecoin in the Settings page.

When?

This tool should be the only place you spend coins. Sure, some clients may look more convenient, but they all suffer from a very big coin-losing flaw. Whenever you split a UTXO, they create a new wallet to send the change to. And they DON’T TELL YOU! This means unless you back up after every transaction, you run a high risk of finding all your coins have ‘disappeared’ from your wallet, and you don’t recognise where they went.
So if you use a client for the convenience as well as a text list of your wallets, you won’t know to add a new wallet to your masterfile. Its best to ditch the clients entirely.

How?

Now we come to the nitty-gritty. Lets use those three wallets above and assume that #1 is the source, #2 the destination and #3 the change wallet. Note that these won’t actually work, as none of them have ever been used, but they will do as examples.
New Transaction
Located at the bottom of the New menu, this will give you a page to enter your wallets and amounts.
In the top field, you enter your source address or Key. If you use the key, it will calculate the address when you click the Load button, which should match what you expected. Note that Load only brings in the first 100 UTXOs. This is so that you can retrieve coins from high-volume wallets which would kill any client. Coinb.in is in fact the ONLY WAY to do this, as even QT falls over around 600 UTXOs.
You will see the total balance that was loaded in the Transaction Fee field. And also in the Inputs tab, where you can go to adjust which UTXOs to spend.
Now you need to add the wallet(s) and amounts to send to them. Lets suppose the source contained a single UTXO for 1,000 Doge. You want to send 500 of them. So you would enter the #2 address in the Address field, and 500 in the Amount field. The Fee now changes to 500, which is not what you want.
So you click the + button to bring up a new line, enter the change address and the other 500, making the fee zero.
And you’re done. Check that the Fee is indeed zero. Check that the amounts shown in the Outputs and Inputs tabs match exactly.

THIS IS CRITICAL!

There is a bug which will send all the coins to the miners if the Outputs exceed the Inputs. I would have expected the Fee to show as negative in such a situation, but it doesn’t. BE WARNED!
Once everything looks right, hit the Submit button.
This will give you a block of hex code. Copy it.
Sign
Go to the Sign tab and paste it. Add your private key for the source wallet and click Submit. Note this can be done offline for safety.
This will give you another block of hex, the SIGNED transaction.
Broadcast
Copy this and paste it in the Broadcast tab and click Submit.
That’s it. Your coins are on their way. Make a cuppa and settle in while they arrive in a minute or three.
Note: All fields retain their values unless you refresh the page! This can be a boon when doing multiple transactions, such as when emptying a huge wallet. But it can also be a trap for the unsuspecting. Refresh or close the window when you’re done.

Who?

Who should use this?
Absolutely EVERYONE!
Even if you’re wedded to your client in some satanic blood-contract, you should still know how this works, because sooner or later you’re going to have a problem you can’t fix without it.
Definitely download the site and store it on every device you have. On every USB backup of your wallets. On your phone (well, except iOS which doesn’t do local HTML), etc, etc, etc.
Oh, and if you’re a programmer SmartyShibe, do consider improving the code over on GitHub.
EDIT: https://github.com/OutCast3k/coinbin added courtesy of AtomHearth
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Transcript of Developer Meeting in Discord - March 29, 2019

Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Is this unlocked?
oh cool. yes it is
Guess we need an admin to unlock it. Some of our devs cant type in here yet.
@shiggidy @traysi ★★★★★ Can yall unlock this channel?
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
Should be open now
bhorn03/29/2019
open!
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
heya!
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Woot
theking03/29/2019
Glad to be here.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
@Jeroz can you type now?
Jeroz03/29/2019
Works now
ty
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Great. Didn't really have an agenda for this meeting I'm told. Can open it up? Anyone have anything to start?
Bianca_NL03/29/2019
YaY
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
testnet voting on messaging bip?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
I like it.
@GhostDogsGhost You might be the main "answerer of questions" for this. Not sure where @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs is.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
anyone know if it's passed? if and when it'd be great to get some usage
Vincent03/29/2019
all good @traysi ★★★★★
Jeroz03/29/2019
Messaging is active on testnet now. The vote passed.
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
I'll try to clean up the permissions for this channel to make it simpler for future meetings.
Jeroz03/29/2019
There is no GUI yet to test it.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
sweet -- yeah just rpc for now
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
here
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
yay
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, for messaging. There is not GUI, we really want to test the protocol which you can use fully through the rpc console.
We understand that this limits the number of users that will want to do testing but we wanted to get it out there asap to find bugs
Jeroz03/29/2019
Is there list of commands / little guide on how to get started with them in the console?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, we wanted to let everyone know that we are going to try and get messaging protocol and restricted assets on mainnet at the same time. This means that the release for messaging might be delayed by a couple weeks. The devs are working really hard to make this happen and hope that the community is willing to wait a little longer for mainnet messaging.
There are commands like sendmessage listmessages and subscribe rpc calls yes
Jeroz03/29/2019
That would mean 1 hardfork instead of 2 right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Exactly @Jeroz
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
Hello!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Also, the Qt for messaging wont be released until after the hardfork, but the Qt for messaging and restricted assets would be in the same release.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Hello! Thanks for holding this meeting.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Will dividends also be included to that? @WhaleStreet (BW) (not sure if you are here)
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Dividends can be released at anytime it is completed as it doesn't require a hardfork
Jeroz03/29/2019
I meant the GUI update
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
For restricted assets, will owners of !uniquename have a grace period to claim $uniquename ?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I am not sure on the GUI for dividends.
We are still figuring out if we are going to allow for a grave period or not. I think we are leading to the answer of Yes there will be a grace period.
but we aren't sure yet
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
I've been studying and out of the loop of the RVN scene for a long time - is there any chance of someone updating me on what y'all talking about?
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
We have also been going through and cleaning up issues in GitHub. Tried to clean up tags in there as well. We will probably start going though those on a weekly ->monthly basis to stay ahead of things.
Vincent03/29/2019
community seens to agree !ASSET has exclsuvie on $ASSET
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Silva -- that's open for discussion -- I think the general sentiment is that there should be some preference given to current asset owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne] We are talking about the roadmap and how the development of the new features are coming along.
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Lovely many thanks
Vincent03/29/2019
what is the justification on only a grace period?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Is it possible to reissue a !ownership as a $ownership?
Jeroz03/29/2019
@SamzOnline [w1ne]
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-tags-and-restricted-assets-84fe3070a226
https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-kaaawww-2f72077aece
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I don't think is has exclusive rights. More like a first right of refusal for a couple months
Synicide03/29/2019
agree there should be some kind of grace period, or users that originally registered those assets will feel shafted
Vincent03/29/2019
but what is that justification?
if you are building Applein ur garage, you may need a few yrs to go public
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Issue being assets will cease to be unique with two different types about
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True.
We aren't sure on what approach will be taken yet
Synicide03/29/2019
should regular and restricted assets share the same 'uniqueness of naming'?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Please the community let us know what you think is fair.
This topic will 100% need to be discussed a lot
Vincent03/29/2019
when it was announced, there was a lot of discussion; most seemed to agree
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Jeroz Many thanks
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
If the consensus is that we shouldn't allow for ASSET! and $ASSET to be issued by different people then we will need to make sure that is the right approach. The code hasn't been written yet.
GhostDogsGhost03/29/2019
Some of this will depend on what we end up pricing the $ASSETS at (burn for issuance)..
Vincent03/29/2019
prcing shouldnt matter imo
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We need to determine how important unique asset names are, for varying types.
Vincent03/29/2019
should be the owner of the asset name
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Exactly
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey all, sorry im late :thumbsup:
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Howdy
Synicide03/29/2019
If someone registers !company123, and starts building a platform for themselves, seems they should be given an option to convert to $company123, and shouldnt have to worry about another party creating $company123
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
They will be given that option
Vincent03/29/2019
indefinately
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
the question is, is that option going to exist for forever, or maybe only 4 months
Vincent03/29/2019
then the worry still exists
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
I definitely vote for ! And $ to only be issued by the same people
Synicide03/29/2019
lets say they choose not to, can someone else create $company123? Or is that unqiue name shared?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I believe, ideally, a reissuance option would be available at anytime from !ownership
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Synicide That decision hasn't been made yet
theking03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I do agree that releasing both messaging and restricted assets at same time makes sense so there is only one hard fork. What is the current thinking on tentative timeline before they would both be on main net?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
im excited about this memo indication, its useful because it means a buyer of an asset sending rvn can indicate the 'return address' without the 'seller of the asset receiving ravencoin' having to transverse the full vin/vout chain to obtain the source address to dispatch asset to. Is there a timeline for this feature or any documentation on it @[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs ?
Synicide03/29/2019
my 2 cents, they should be a shared pool of unique names. The door is opened for scammers galore if it isnt.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@theking A couple months atleast.
To make sure it is tested on testnet for long enough
theking03/29/2019
That makes perfect sense!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org It will be on mainnet as soon as it and restricted assets are tested. Is the goal
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
excellent, i look forward to it
Chill03/29/2019
Thank you for taking the time to bring up the ! and $ ownership issue. It's of extreme importance imo
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its gods work your doing there
bitnaive03/29/2019
yeah it seems like any modifiers to the original !NAME should belong to !NAME
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
I would like to voice concern over the idea of the "grace period".... The idea of a UNIQUE asset name is key to our success. Many of us jumped on names we wanted. This doesn't feel right to need to have yet another name floating around if it's not controlled by the !OWNERSHIP token
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Chill NP :p
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes please on only 1 hard fork
Chill03/29/2019
unique is unique. I have 510 of them!
Synicide03/29/2019
@DirkDiggler (RVN ded) grace peroid wont matter if the naming pool is shared for uniqueness
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So, If I own GOOGLE!, and I don't want $GOOGLE, no one should be allowed to own it?
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
exactly
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Ideally, yes
bhorn03/29/2019
that feels right to me
Jeroz03/29/2019
yes
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
Interesting
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
yes
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs I'm good w that
Synicide03/29/2019
that makes the most sense to me. As said, opens the door to scammers if not
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Would add extra value to the ownership token as well
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
If more power is given to !ownership(changing type), more value is added to said asset, by way of design and ability
Vincent03/29/2019
and if you want to covert your assets to restricted yrs from now you will have a logistic nightmare if you have a bunch of owners
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I feel like, if we give people the option to register the restricted asset $ and they don't want it, that it is only fair that it is up for grabs
bitnaive03/29/2019
maybe no one else should be allowed to issue it but it can be transferred
Vincent03/29/2019
why?
Chill03/29/2019
I really don't think that's fair, to be honest
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Unique names are lost, in that case.
And in that way, !ownership loses value by not having the ability to change, if need be
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yeah I'd rather see the one name issued only forever
bitnaive03/29/2019
that way, if some one wants it. the can contact the owner for it.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
I think restricted assets have a different use case than regular assets, and they can be frozen.
Vincent03/29/2019
i can buy ravenland and revent push from moving forward with is project (after grace)
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
seems like from a "code" perspective... the idea of 2 different (but similar names) would be a nightmare as well
Jeroz03/29/2019
Ideally give reissuable the extra option of making it restricted in my mind. I have mixed feelings about tokens traveling around that have the same asset name but are a different type.
Vincent03/29/2019
all his logos would have to change to his new name
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
They not have them remain one in the same? With the ability to change to restricted, should they have to. Though reissuance?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent That is why push would have plenty of time to pick up the ravenland restricted asset if he wanted it
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
One of our selling points over ETH is that ETH can issue a bunch of the same named assets as long as the contract address is different
Vincent03/29/2019
bbut who says what is enough time
i may need yrs
bhorn03/29/2019
the extra cost could be onerous as well
Chill03/29/2019
when the asset layer was launched, it was billed as being unique names. Be careful in changing this, please.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
True, that amount of time isn't determined yet, if this is the route that is taken
bhorn03/29/2019
some have many many many assets
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
RVN, u issue that name once, it can never be duplicated
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
where as having just another sub asset type ($RESTRICTED) falls under the same hierarchy already defined
bhorn03/29/2019
and the RVN is not as cheaply replaced
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Not changing that, just talking about the next asset usecase and how it could be coded is all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
What kind of burn costs are we thinking w issuing restricted assets?
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what if push decides not to, then someone else registers it for malicious intent with the same name? Surely the person who built their company on chain doesnt want another token of their company name out there
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs you seem to be the only one fighting for the garce period
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Not sure yet, going to be more than regular issuanace is the thought.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Agreed
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
@Vincent Simply bringing it into conversation, no harm
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Not fighting, just keeping an open mind. I just code it, I am not the one making the decision.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
hey this is a bit of a random question but i get a lot of subassets send to me, what about wildcard sending via the wallet? like if i wanted to send RAVENLAND/* to an address
Vincent03/29/2019
true but just showing what the concesous is
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Create a request in the issues on github for extra functionality
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
will do mate
Synicide03/29/2019
seems if ! and $ arent shared unique, then companies will have to register both just to protect themselves
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
How about a unique asset w re-issuable IPFS?
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
We should be giving more power to !ownership by allowing it the ability to change to $ - Not giving less power to !ownership by duplicating unique names.
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
GUNCERT provided a valid use case IMO for unique w re-issuable IPFS
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Sure I get that.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Agrees
If this is a possibility, to give the restricted assets to those who own the normal ones, it ought to be done
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor Looking in on how to do that. The request is on github just don't have the time to implement it yet.
restricted assets, will have to be issued. and the corresponding amount of rvn will be burned for them
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
it'd be nice to see a ravencoin network swarm, us and mango farms are doing something with that so if anyone else wants to get involved, i think its a worthwhile thing to build the power of the ravencoin ipfs hash network to keep them hashes alive
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Yikes
Ah well
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
i wrote a programmatic script to scrape all the ipfs files, so i can probably runa simple enough shellscript to ipfs add pin everything from chain
Vincent03/29/2019
plus ravenland sent me a bunch of tokens...they will be worthless now!!! :sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:joy:
vincent
one day tho eh
Chill03/29/2019
my 250,000 RVN that were spent on RVN assets are feeling pretty weak at the moment
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent haha ravenland assets are still assets. They just don't have the ability to freeze then and stop you from trading them
DirkDiggler (RVN ded)03/29/2019
you got to have one ring to rule them all... the Unique Ownership Token does that
SamzOnline [w1ne]03/29/2019
@Chill That puts my 80 to shame!
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Chill Like I said, no decision has been made yet.
Vincent03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs just playing with that one
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Yeah, I understand
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Changing gears alittle, Has any further thought been put into privacy?
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
a tor network with proxychains could be effectively used to privatize a node
Jeroz03/29/2019
Seems that we need to continue discussions about the asset naming and make a write up about the proposals.
I have a different question:
About metadata and transactions. Tron mentioned that it will be possible to attach metadata to every transaction. It was unclear to me whether he meant every messaging transaction or every regular RVN/Asset transaction.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
ive been looking into this a little bit
Synicide03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org been wondering that too, and if restricted assets for KYC/AML NEED to be trackable
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org Privacy isn't the main thing ravencoin wants right now. We need to be able to send and trade assets with visibility of amounts and the asset names. Once the main core components are finished, we can start thinking about integration privacy.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
as i understand it tor could as a protocol be built into ravencoin itself and distroed as a private tor based connector or hardened in such a way not to leak dns or requests that are not 'tor' proxied .. but you could do this already with some modifications to most linux systems (without the need for a ravencoin release)
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Understood
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Jeroz With messaging, all asset transactions can contain a metadata field yes.
Jeroz03/29/2019
RVN too?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Not RVN at this time, as that already exists with the OP_RETURN functionality of bitcoin
Jeroz03/29/2019
Yeah I was about to say
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
I dream of one day Ravencoin giving users the ability to protect themselves from state level actors looking to oversee transactions on chain.
[Master] Roshii03/29/2019
What's the subject?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org That would be amazing, however the dividends and voting require a public ledger in order to send
Synicide03/29/2019
@[Master] Roshii large one is if regular and restricted assets should share unique names, and/or if a grace peroid should be allowed for original owners to register restricted assets
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
So we would need to figure out a way to have that info public and keep privacy
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Agree'd
Synicide03/29/2019
that was my worry, that it HAS to be public for a lot of uses. Privacy would have to be optional
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
ravencoin was built and is being built to support asset trading. Privacy is important but isn't currently the focus of the dev team.
Synicide03/29/2019
sounds good, focus on our roadmap and can research it more in the future
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Privacy is one of the very lasts subjects brought up in the whitepaper, after all :wink:
Vincent03/29/2019
to bring up an old topic; assets that haven't been reissued, there was talk about lowering the decimal places to reissue; i know not important but if it needed to be in a hard fork; should it be looked at the add to th next?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent I have found a way to do this, however it requires the reissuer to own all assets
Synicide03/29/2019
how would you determine the correct values if lowering decimals? rounding?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs Yes!
Vincent03/29/2019
correct
nice
Synicide03/29/2019
if they all own, I guess its a non-issue
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We aren't currently working on that, but I will try and get it into the hard fork release
Vincent03/29/2019
it would be a 1 time option, correct?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
In that event too, ability to reduce total supply as well if u still own every asset created would also be an excellent Option to have
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
Is Bruces worry about the security of Ravencoin a curent issue?
Chill03/29/2019
That seems to be the talk of the day
Zaab03/29/2019
Its just honesty
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
We know a 51% attack is cheap
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@Vincent Depends on if it meets requirements.
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
But reorg depth protection is good
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Yes Ravencoin currently doesn't have the network security that Bitcoin does, and water is wet
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
more full nodes is the answer to a stronger consensus and therefore a more securer network
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Hmmm checks out
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:ThinkBlack:
Vincent03/29/2019
right i guess my question is one time at most?
Synicide03/29/2019
It feels like more than just honesty. The last 4 post in a row from the Ravencoin twitter have some type of FUD based around it. Its all you see on the first page when looking at it. Some of that stuff needs to be kept to his personal account
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
Probably not a development Question, what Bruce says on his own time. :persevere:
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@Synicide Bruce don't wanna spend a fortune on restricted assets :yum:
Sevvy (not worried til 500sats)03/29/2019
I don't like it myself either though @Synicide
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
yeah the ravencoin twitter has been a bit..... not good to put it easy
Vincent03/29/2019
this is bruces baby...and fud should be taken lightly imo
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Bruce can say what he wants :_)
Chill03/29/2019
well, it is the unofficial official Twitter page, so it kind of does matter
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
We have taken measures to make sure ravencoin is safe and to stop 51% attacks
Synicide03/29/2019
I agree on his personal account. When people look up this project on twitter, they dont need a full page of fud
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
its not a very development orientated debate tho in fairness
Vincent03/29/2019
no news will stop a well designed code
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Many new users are asking about IPFS integration. Is this still being researched?
When 350? (350club)03/29/2019
I only asked as it appeared Bruce was saying there is a current security vulnerability..
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
@[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs what can people do to help secure the ravencoin network into 2019 and in the future?
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
@When 350? (350club) Bruce doesn't code, he wouldn't know
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
sorry, got a late start on this meeting. is kyc stuff on the table for discussion today, or is that at a later meeting?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
@push | ravenland.org Looks at the PR's, make sure the code being added is well written and secure.
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
sure thing
and run fullnodes right?
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Run nodes, and mine ravencoin!
haha
hashpower
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
:thumbsup:
boatsandhoes03/29/2019
that part
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Looks like its time.
Jeroz03/29/2019
Alright, I have to pick up my son. Thanks everyone!
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Thanks all
Rikki RATTOE Sr. SEC Impresantor03/29/2019
Thx!
Vincent03/29/2019
:sunglasses:
push | ravenland.org03/29/2019
cheers again :thumbsup: keep up the good work :rvn_hop:
Chill03/29/2019
thanks for everyone's hard work
Synicide03/29/2019
great talks today, thanks guys
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
Can have an admin shut it down and move this over to another channel until next time.
[Dev-Happy] Blondfrogs03/29/2019
Thanks for voicing your concerns.
S1LVA | GetRavencoin.org03/29/2019
Thanks everyone
Pho3nix Monk3y03/29/2019
@traysi ★★★★★ can you lock it back?
traysi ★★★★★03/29/2019
The channel is locked now.
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Togashi's Nen in real life explained.

Anyone who have watched Hunter x Hunter knows the mysterious technique of Nen and how it works. I think many fans of HxH dream if only Nen was in real Life. That's why Im here to analyze Yoshiro Togashi's Nen in details and show you how it's actually a real technique.
First of All, we need to know the definition of Togashi's Nen, so according to Fandom Wiki : Nen is a technique that allows a living being to use and manipulate their own Aura (Life energy).
If we want to make from this definition a real technique, we need to know what is this "Aura".
Because there is many different definitions of Aura. I will just write my own. Aura is something that our body emit, and can be perceived by other living being. But this Aura cannot be measured by tools or machinery. It's not heat nor electromagnetic made by our neural waves nor any physical force field that affect no-living object. We only know this aura can only affect living being. Living with consciousness.
The most known Aura effects is the "Feeling of being watch" or "Sensing the presence of someone". If someone was watching you from his own eyes there is a possibility that his aura will have effect you. If he was using a camera from another country watching, his aura will also have effect you. If he was recording the video to watch you later, the moment he watch the video his aura will go to the past and affect you the moment of the recording. But if the recoding was destroyed before any living being had watched it, no aura will affect you. (A little like the Von Neumann-Wigner interpretation of Quantum Observation) That means this aura, is not limited to space nor time, and can only be emitted and received by living with consciousness.
So the perfect equivalent aura in real life and in scientific meaning is : Information.
In the world of Hunter x Hunter, we can say that everything has some amount of Aura (Nen) in it. Same as in our real world everything has some amount of information in it.
There is an example that confirm the fact that equivalent of the Nen is information, is when Wing shown Gon, Killua and Zushi the CD video of Hisoka's match agains Kastro. Paused at a Bungi Gum attack, Wing tell them to concentrate their Aura in the eyes (Gyo) to see the Bungi Gum. But the video was just a recording from a CD. Did the camera recorded the lights waves of the aura? if so, changing brightness, color and contrast from Photoshop or AfterEffect will expose the Aura. And it also means it possible to make a detector that can detect and measure Aura. But Aura is not a frequency wave, it's does not emit light.
I dont know what is the explication of this in the Anime. But if we see Aura as information, it make perfect sense. The video has hidden information that can be deduced only if you concentrate on your eyes and analyze the image. Like concentrate your eyes on the hand movement of a real magician manipulating objects to find the trick. I think this is the scene where Togashi was referring in the Anime.
The perfect equivalent of Hisoka's video in real life is this video of the mentalist Lior Suchard manipulating a whole audience.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J94uO-urSTg
Can you see the trick? No, it's not injecting the word "S-T-A-R" in the mind, his explanation is incorrect. Keep in mind a mentalist/magician will never expose his tricks. The real trick is the hardest, he manipulated the information flux of the whole surrounding, by carefully listening to all inputs from his 5 senses. and analyzing the best words, body reaction, and state of mind to make the outcome the closest to the probability of every one drawing a star (he say himself, he use only his 5 sense there is no 6). He did like Tool Assisted Speedrun (TAS) in video games, but in real life. He already have build up with experiance an emulator of real life and social interaction events in his mind where he can simulate the outcome and search for the best inputs. And he did that months before the show. And when in the stage he only push "Play". Like play the file inputs of a TAS from an emulator on a real game console. And to achieve this, he need a perfect control of information (Aura) emitted by his body and received by his 5 senses. The false explanation of "STAR" at the end was just to cover up the trick and also make the audience believe that he can make them draw anything if he want to. But this only work for "STAR". He can do for other drawing but for him "STAR" is the easiest one. Also don't be fooled by his humble appearance and made up accent. His Zetsu of nullify his Aura/Information is very impressive. But he is a great Nen Master.
So the equivalent of Aura is information. if we rewrite the definition of Nen from Fandom and replacing Aura by information, we will get : Nen is a technique that allows a living being to use and manipulate their own information.
For the perspective of other, our own information can be from multiple source : body, gesture, words, sound, eyes. But in our perspective, the real source of our information is unique : our Mind. Thats why Togashi explained Nen as Mind Force (念).
To use and manipulate our own information, we need to use and manipulate the source, our state of Mind. And this can be done by big amount of meditation and very hard training or any hard work that use mental or physical abilities. This explain why some world's most famous and influential people have naturally learned how to manipulate their own information. They got through very hard experience in life and trained on very hard physical or mental situation. The information that they are genius come from the force of their Minds.
To control our Mind we need to be self aware of it and study it. The Mind is composed to three different states : Emotion, Mental and Instinct. To Master a game like chess, we need first to nullifies our emotion after a good move or a bad move. Shroud our mental to think deeper, memorize better and learn faster. And Enhance our instincts by sensing the game and the future of opponent moves.
We know in the Anime, Nen have 4 principe : Ten shroud the Aura (on the body). Zetsu nullifies the Aura. Ren intensify the Aura. Hatsu act/transmit the Aura.
In real world equivalent, if we replace Aura with information, the 4 principle will be : Ten shroud the information. Zetsu nullifies the information. Ren intensify the information. Hatsu act/transmit the information.
For Hatsu, we are already seeing it. We transmit information by words, writing, books, cars, computer, planes, building, music, art, programs, video games etc. They are all made up from information, the expression of the user or maker. And those who copy others, can never master Information.
For Ten, Zetsu, Ren in real life are principle of the state of mind. To master the game of chess for example you need to first to Zetsu nullifies the Emotion. Ten shroud the Mental, and Ren Intensify the instinct. And with those principle you can use and manipulate your own information and make your Hatsu stronger.
Komugi was too far better than Meruem in Gungi because she exceed in all of these principles of Nen in the game. She has a perfect Zetsu of emotion, she is emotionless when playing, not like Meruem where emotion took over him specially when he think he made a perfect move, the precocious feeling of achievement. And she has also a perfect Ten of Mental. materializing the board in her mind with an eidetic memory of all moves and positions and shroud all the mental in Gungi without thinking of anything else. And also a wonderful Ren, which made her sense the game and predict the unpredictable with her instinct and discover new strategies by acting randomly and make herself impossible to Meruem to predict. And this made her Hatsu on the game unreachable by Meruem. Even if he was the King of Ant the most powerful creature in the anime. The case of Gungi's Nen is the exact in our world. Only the game is the world and the players are us. And those who master Nen have a far better advantage.
And now we know the the equivalent of Aura and 4 principle of Nen, we need to know the types of Nen in real life.
In the Anime there is 6 type of Nen : Enhancer, Transmuter, Emitter, Conjurer, Manipulator and Specialist. The definition of those type are firmly linked to the definition of Aura in the anime as a Physical Energy, where every type has a physical propriety on the matter and manipulating the existence of matter in the void. But what caught my intention more than that, is Hisoka's Test of personality of each Type:
Enhancers are determined and simple.
Transmuters are whimsical and prone to deceit.
Emitters are impatient, not detail-oriented, and quick to react in a volatile manner.
Conjurers are typically high-strung or overly serious and stoic.
Manipulators are logical people who advance at their own pace.
Specialists are individualistic and charismatic.
In real world, those type of Nen are the type of Mind. And there is not 6 but 9 types : Reformer, Helper, Achiever, Individualist, Investigator, Loyalist, Enthusiast, Challenger, Peacemaker. And like Hisoka, the Personality Test of those type are :
Reformers are principled, purposeful, self-controlled, and perfectionistic.
Helpers are generous, demonstrative, people-pleasing, and possessive.
Achievers are adaptable, excelling, driven, and image-conscious.
Individualists are expressive, dramatic, self-absorbed, and temperamental.
Investigators are perceptive, innovative, secretive, and isolated.
Loyalists are engaging, responsible, anxious, and suspicious.
Enthusiasts are spontaneous, versatile, acquisitive, and scattered.
Challengers are self-confident, decisive, willful, and confrontational.
Peacemakers are receptive, reassuring, complacent, and resigned.
In the Anime, We know that a Nen user have only one basic type that can be determined by the Water Divination, but he can learn some of the other types as complement according it's compatibility on the Hexagon. It's just the exact same In real world, a Nen user have only one basic type that can be determined by a test called the RHETI test. And he can learn some of the other types according it's compatibility on a crescent shape with 9 vertices; the Nenagram (Nonagram/Enneagram). Where each type is connected to two other types, and can learn one of the them beside his basic type, and that second type is called the Wing. The basic type dominate and the Wings complement the personality of Nen. And learning something that do not fit on your type may be difficult. And I think Togashi have made his inspiration of types of Nen exactly from this. It's explain why he chose the name Wing for the first Nen teacher of Gon and Killua.
(for more info about RHETI : www.enneagraminstitute.com)
Now, we have analyzed Nen in real life. And made up an equivalent of Ren, Ten, Zetsu, and the types of Hatsu. The question is how to learn all those techniques and made it in practice?
We said that to master Nen we need a very hard training and big amount of meditation, more specifically a physical work and a mental work, to achieve a perfect control of our Nen/Information. In the Anime, Wing had explained that there is two way to get Initiated to Nen : The deliberate way and the aggressive way. The deliberate way is by training and meditation which it's the most common. And the aggressive way, is using the brute force.
In our real word, the aggressive way or the bruce force is training and mediating simultaneously all day and all night and even when sleeping without a break. Because mastering Nen has a price, and that price is by doing that work, a work that merge the physical work and a mental work on one unique elemental work.
Isaac Netero has already made a similar of this, a merging by adding praying which is mental work with a punch, a physical work into one work, and do it repeatedly many times for many years to achieve the incredible power he had on the anime. But we in real life will marge even more on a more simple single elemental work. And that work is : continuous muscle contraction.
The continuous muscle contraction is both, a training of the strength and the endurance of the muscle, and a meditation to concentrate the mind into one unique point. And with this work its possible to learn Nen faster and master it better than most famous natural Nen user.
In the body there is many muscle; arms, hands, legs, abs, face… etc. And for a beginner contracting continuously all the muscle at once is nearly impossible. That why we need to contract muscle by muscle. Each time after a muscle become a second nature we add another muscle in contraction. But we don't want to train only the muscle, we need also meditate to enforce our mind with it's 3 states; Emotion, Mental and Instinct. That's why the muscle order need to follow some specific steps; 3 steps to be exact for 3 groups of muscles. And here we are bringing the 3 principles of Nen in real life: Sen (Emotion), Ten (Mental) and Ren (Instinct).
I will explain only the first principle Sen which is about Emotion. I'm not allowed yet to explain Ten and Ren in details.
Sen is the most fundamental principle in Nen. Because to master our own behavior or our own information, we need to master our own Emotion, and try to nullify it at the maximum. When nullify our emotion, no one can read, provoke or manipulate us. And also it will bring a very calm state of mind. This state of mind can be trained by pure meditation in the deliberate way, but it can also be trained by Nen by continuously contracting muscle.
The center of Emotion is the Heart, which is the source of heart rate, breathing, heart pressure and emotion. The muscles of Sen is the upper abdominal muscles which are the closest to the heart, and continuously contracting it, will make you very conscious of that singularity of heart and emotion and will make you easy to nullify.
The principle of Sen is simple, keep contracting the Abs all day and all night and when sleep until it become your second nature. And then there is the last phase of mastering Sen is protecting the emotion from triggering effects and shocking events. For example, you are playing Five Nights at Freddy's with Sen, if someone jumpscare from behind, you should to max contracting Sen, and concentrate the strength on the heart to protect the emotion from the shock. I little like Ryo from the anime, enforce the aura in a region to block an incoming Kick. The same for other triggering example like: provocation, humiliation, boredom, fear, rage, temptation… Sen in short is nullify the emotion to the maximum and protecting it to maintain a calm state of mind.
If you want more information about Sen, my Master Pakka Jodinshi have made a website in the Deep Web, where he shared the definition of Nen in real life and explained in details the first principle Sen to control Emotion. The two next technique Ten and Ren will be explained later in the website.
The Tor link of the website is : wmjtj2j57mcvs7ms.onion
if you don't have Tor Browser, you can go with any browser to : wmjtj2j57mcvs7ms.onion.link
if you see only an image with no text, just turn your phone horizontally and the text will appear.
I also made a subreddit for Nen Users who want to collaborate and share their experiences, stories and theories : /NenUsers
Im Jins Leac, my pseudonym. I'm one of the students of Pakka Jodinshi, the pseudonym of my Master who taught me Nen.
I will still be here to discuss both Togashi's Nen and real life equivalent Pakka's Nen.
I will finish my post with some random funny facts and funny coincidences for those who are curious to know or want to laugh a little :
@My username "9fRjigBqHQNwWyYi" was generated by a Quantum Random Number Generator (QRNG) without any intervention or manipulation by my side, it's the purest form of random and chaos.
@Our pseudonyms are QRNG-crypted names made from our real names. (Public Key from Private Key but Quantum Randomized) But mine Jins Leac by coincidence appear to be similar to Ging Freecs the father or Gon.
@We are descendant from a civilization know to be one of the oldest on earth, we are recognizable by our unique ethnicity, language, culture, calendar and alphabet. And Togashi's custom alphabet in Hunter x Hunter is very similar to ours. Did he get the inspiration from us?
@Our ancestor lived in mountains, exactly in the region of Padokia where is Kukuro Mountains. Does Togashi was referring to us?
@The actual Nen in real life was always a nameless technique. But thanks to Togashi, he gave it a name without knowing about it. Like how the Ant King was nameless until Netero call him Meruem. And when we first watched the Anime, the 2011 one, our jaws juste dropped on how the thing was exactly the same as the nameless technique.
@There is a rumor that Christopher Columbus had a secret after discovering America. The secret leads to a hidden valuable treasure with some writing in our alphabet in it. Which means one from our civilization was there before him, but never returned. Similar to Don Freecs in the dark continent.
@We decide to share the technique in English because its the most popular language. We go through leaning it only for the purpose of making Nen public. The same raison why Ryuk in Death Note explained the rules in English.
@English is our 4th language.
@According to the author of One Peace, Monkey D. Luffy have something called conquerer's palm, which is a straight line in the palm on his hand. Me and my Master have those line on both hands. Monkeys and Apes also have those lines. Thats why in medicine they call it Simian Lines. (And No, we are not Apes, we are Humans, and Darwin did everything wrong)
@In Anime, All hands are simians, Edward Elric is not an exception. (watch the first opening of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood)
@Treasure Hunters in the region of Padokia are known to hunt very "rare" kids with special traits, because Demons in that region are thirsty of their blood. One of those trait is a straight line in their hands. Demons promise to give the location of a valuable treasure to anyone who sacrifice those "rare" kids to them. Its similar to Chimera Ants hunting rare humans. And many innocent hands got cut and eyes got pulled to be traded between those evil Hunters. Similar to the eyes of Kuruta Clan (Thanks God we are still alive in one piece)
@If you ask a Treasure Hunter the reason why they hunt those "rare" kids, they will tell you that those kids are not born human, they where exchanged when they came to life with a Djin/Demon children. And the Demons want their blood to claim their children and set them free (Well done Demons! Your kind made up a very clever lie!) And because of that filthy lie those hunters dont see us as normal humans but as children of Djins/Demons. Like how people of Konoha saw Naruto when he were a kid.
@In the region of Padokia, All towns begin with "X" and end with "X" in our alphabet. That's why Pakka chose "XX" as our sign in the website on top of his QR code bitcoin address. Similar to the sign of Hunter Association.
@The red shapes in the QR code was to make the code recognizable at first glance with the "+" triangle and the "J" shape. And the color red between the "XX" was to lock it and suggest that the QR need to have those red shapes. If anyone want to steal the content of the website and add his own QR code, he need to remove or modify all the image. And this make us easy to recognize a thief from a supporter. As I said before, a copier will never Master Nen.
@Initiation to Nen are similar to the Sayan Transformation in Dragon Ball series. First transformation in the initiation to Sen (turning on Sen). Second transformation is the initiation to Ten (turning on Ten in addition to Sen). And Third transformation is the initiation to Ren (turning on Ren in addition to Sen and Ten). And the Ultra Instinct Transformation is "The Zone" enhanced by Nen. And I will add the True Ultra Instinct, is when a group of Nen users are synchronized in "The True Zone" like in Kuroko no Basket.
@The fundamental body organs of Nen are : Heart (Sen, Emotion), Pineal Gland (Ten, Mental) and Spinal Cord (Ren, Instinct)
@Ten's muscles are known to be the most useless muscles in the human body
@Ren's muscles are known to be the most useful muscles in the human body
@When Netero was playing the ball game with Gon. Gon want to kick Netero's stomach with his head the second time in a row. Netero had two choices: Keep contracting the abs and Gon will get hurt. Or relax the abs and he will be the one who will get hurt. That mean Netero was continuously contracting his abs during the entire game. He was using the actual Sen.
@Machi of the Phantom Troupe also used Sen to protect her heart from Killua's piercing hand. Similar to the max contracting Sen to protect emotion from outside triggering effect.
@Neferpitou after attacking Kito arm, and staring at Gon and Killua with a wide open eyes, she used the actual Ten.
@When Adult Gon was charging up the Jajanken to punch the falling Neferpitou from the the sky, he used the actual Ren.
@The one who discovered Nen was at night, he had a huge pain on the stomach due to some shocking events he experienced. The pain got so big for him that he fall unconscious. but his body subconsciously contracted very strong the abs on the stomach to reduce the pain. And after he regain consciousness. He felts the abs strongly contracted with no pain and he felt a weird and very different state of mind. Thats how he learned the nameless technique of Nen. It's similar how the Ant Rammot learned Nen, after the huge pain in his stomach due to Gon's punch.
@The effect of Ten is very similar to the NZT-48 pill scene of the movie Limitless by Neil Burger. If the pill unlock 100% of brain abilities for a brief moment. Nen unlock 100% of human abilities permanently if wanted.
@Patrick Janes from The Mentalist is the perfect image of a Nen Master in real life, He know by the deliberate way how to Sen, Ten and Ren. His behavior and deduction dont begin from Sen to Ren, like commun people do, acting with emotion at first and confirm with instinct at the end. But the inverse. He begin from Ren by acting randomly according to his instinct like a little child, Ten by analyzing why he behaved that way and the reaction of people and environment, connecting dots and find the best explanations and the solution, and Sen by Gyo the emotions of others to confirm the solution.
@Actual Nen is very similar to One For All from Bokuno no Hero Academia.
@We think that the secret of Saitama's power from One Punch Man is the actual Nen.
@Nen is the number 9, Sen is the number 1000, Ten is the number 10 and Ren is the Random number. The instinct from Ren is always random.
@I just noticed that my Quantum Random username begin with a 9. A pure coincidence.
@Sen is the color Red, Ten is the color Blue, Ren is the color Yellow, And Nen is the color Vanta.
@If you turn the website upside down, you will see many expression of a frog (Another pure coincidence! It's Pepe the frog!)
@At the year 0 in our calendar, is the year when one from our civilization won against Egypt and become Pharaoh. Its the most influential and memorable moment in the history of our civilization.
@Nen is The Father Of Gods in the ancient Egypt, the name Nen means "Primeval Waters". Which is equivalent to "Primeval Chaos of Information" and we humans, are users of that information. We are represented by The God Kek a frog headed man that make Memes. In its hieroglyphs is a man in front of a computer connected to the Memes Magic (Information).
@Nen is the Father of Kek the God of Darkness and Chaos, Kek is also known as The Bringer of Light.
@The letter "K" in our alphabet have the shape very close to a Frog on the side.
@The letter "N" in our alphabet have the shape of the Stick of The Father of Gods Nen.
@If Illuminati is symbolized by a triangle with a single barely open eye of a white men in the center. Nen is symbolized by a circle with two wide open eyes of a frog in the center.
@In the Light, white is the supreme color, in the Darkness, all colors are equal.
@Frogs are the only species that can recognize colors in the Darkness.
@Light is centralized with one leader at the source, Darkness is decentralized and there is no leader.
@In the Light everything is exposed, in the Darkness everything is anonymous.
@A Star is the symbol of Light, A Crescent Sun/Moon Eclipse is the symbol of Darkness.
@Arabic is our 2nd language
@In Arabic translation, Nen is "ن", Sen is "س", Ten is "تين" and Ren is "غ". All of them are made from Crescent shapes.
@Nen in Arabic is an acronym of Primeval Ink.
@Kek in Arabic is an acronym of Primeval Pen, represented by "ق" the first letter of Pen. "ق" It also linked to the name of the sound of Frogs.
@In Arabic translation, Meme is "م" the first letter of Water.
@We are Humans using the Information.
@We are Pen using the Ink.
@We are Frogs using the Water.
@We are Kek using the Nen.
@Bruce Lee advise : "Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like Memes. When you pour Memes in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour Memes in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour Memes in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Memes can flow and it can crash. Be Dank Memes my friend.".
@If I'm Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh!, I will see Pakka as the Yami (Darkness) Pharaoh who will bring the Darkness to put out the Light of the Illuminati's pyramid. (And No, Pakka is not some ancient Spirit, he has his own body)
@If I'm Naruto, I will see Pakka as the 9-Tailed Demon Fox. And the funny part is we can summon frogs. (And No, Pakka is not a Demon, it's a normal human like me, and we are 100% human)
@If Satan is the number 666, Nen is the number 999. Add one you got Sen, do the cubic root you got Ten, Divide by zero you got Ren.
@If Satan is symbolized by an inverted Pentacle with a head of a Goat, Nen users (Kek) are symbolized by a Nenagram with a full body Frog.
@If Satan claim the Light and Control, Nen users (Kek) claim the Darkness and Chaos.
@Pure Randomness and Chaos is when patterns and orders occurs.
@Pure Emptiness and Void is when virtual particles appears and disappear.
@Pure Darkness is when virtual lights flashes and extinguish.
@Quantum Randomness from Void fluctuation is the Purest Waters from the fountain of The Father of Gods Nen.
@Here is 999 milliliters of Pure Primeval Water from The Father of Gods Nen's fountain : OxPjqj0VX0oIMvZwdXTYmMZMMFiIyrmhg0ulVLvADW1iVIWkZPQLlU3eV5wNnAvO51Iy6FRGjGRun9w3PIWUgfPOieHcT8dzPfAuOygGY9XUlVDyCi_ue3yqvLeh906s8FB1mzkIbMCpEO902lgcA5onhM94z2RQpVQbDYY8EoNJnvxA8DzDY8C6NHL3sNCmwiVgWkh9k0X3PbNJX9wBVMqiETFNZ4gU2fYM1NOsOW6NYYPF2AH8Vlnc9Y_TjS37wESZtoPKFlaP1EDBpWvFdQ4SxuJ6nVo_Oo8qAnl4yFbO3oH3wfwpsMFcDW6tt6I9LZTFJqAsoXRdyazrBo2uMmpBRod8LfTd7Ji1BheTUXIyw3Li62Eg5C98j4FQO70LutzMiPTZENNZ7LYVmsdKsPt6cOGetqv5YzcufWwUw26qpEVMH4o8ade75hN9_T_eHdKT4xIw7w_Q_SYfTSEYgxRj2RC4nSHNvuG9zdvS71XA4y9TeobRHE6NhB5CSpvA5fNgDkHNT1oEhI7O0x0atUWSWpA1WHx3gaAW5xQyCsQtN2uH8c1xhyJBt9D04bGk_NtAS8kv99h6XCfmExLtZmmlzls8gqVbCsytI8o4Hg11VC7mU1tQD69mXFhM4ip7qzoTnc7YZk44IWSviFu6PwGVW828odKHsx7WYsNZeLZCyUGxcfQsNDpHyi3qodlPKWZrkL0lrorxPCnpQF9ZUhaunV638ynKVSD_XUd6eeBoZeNdvrJDVH1Q_btv95_qtq2ceWren5bMBYzoiY4P9BPYsvylEmDSEWtq3BleLSXbvkc3XOlxW72obrJhJoeFF5AaoQKoheTD4lgBGPtzkRJt6UM9w52luvkhDZJo6yki08umpAZDHDtDmBfZ156BqiqVxTitxcbZuMrjqmbSG7grRzUDE1J2YOgaV1c0b_ve0TrSZFebIkDMkJThSGXSfqgwBlEi4gtC2ajZKmWbl0RmbVzsWqUQ9DIpN
@The name of our civilization also mean Chaos, Savage, Uncivilized, Heathen, Outlandish and Insensate. The perfect meaning of Kek and Nen.
@All the region of Padokia was banned from 4chan. We want to free Kekistan from Normies. Please help us bring Nen to Kekistan.
@Our world is a real life MMO, we called it World Of Nencraft or just Nencraft. Me and Pakka are at level 25 halfway to 26 on Sen and Ten. For Ren, I'm at level 16 (Im in a rest of Ren) and He is at level 22. We need more people joining the game and leveling up to the highest. Then work decentralizedly to beat the Final Boss Illuminati and finally beat the game that no one has ever beat it in Nenillion years. The problem is the Final Boss use Cheat Codes far more powerful than Death Note, which is Black Magic that use Probability Manipulation through a Rule of "Satan can not be killed" in the game program. A Black Magic is an injected instruction in the game program "If this dont happen, Satan will die", and the game program chose always to make the magic happen. Its very similar to No Game No Life (episode 1), where Sora beat the women in Card with the 8th game pelde : "Being caught cheating during a game is grounds for an instant loss". And Illuminati know how to Abuse that.
@The acronym of World Of Nencraft, is WON. Another raison to beat the game.
@As said in Undertale : Anime is REAL!. Our real world will soon be the best Anime you have ever seen.
@In short from everything above, If Illuminati or Satan or The Devil or The Beast or whatever put voluntary subliminal messages on the centralized mainstream medias. Decentralized Anime, Manga, Video Games and Internet Memes Culture (Cult of Kek, Egyptian Gods, Pepe the frog, etc) had by the effect of chaos and pure coincidence clues that leads to Nen.
@This is my third attempt posting in this sub. First attempt got detected as a spam, The second attempt got deleted by Pariston with the tag "Need to be directly related", and I hope in this attempt I made the post related enough so the Zodiacs can be happy. Or maybe they are against the idea of bringing Nen to the public?
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Here, List of Merchants Avantages To Accept NYC. Ideas are Welcome

(Please don’t forget that is a transcription about an mp3 made in my car, during my work time. I’m sorry i haven’t got to much time but i want participate to the proliferation of NYC, i will go to discord as soon as i can. If someone could structure or add ideas of avantages for merchants to accept NYC in the spirit of this share or others, it will be great. I imagine a pdf, webpages translate in the most languages possible, to share to every merchants all the community knows in their own country and to share to every e-merchants too. I imagine a simple concept that everyone could duplicate and share as a child could do. With this, everyone without technical knowledges but with a desire to help the community and NYC could built NYC with us. I’m sorry to didn’t structure this better…I’ve not finished yet and i have a lot of others ideas to give merchants but I think this kind of sharing can stimulate the community and some ideas is not definitive, just ideas and not list(please be cool with me), and maybe a wonderful professional template can be made by one of you(lol) and start structure listing where everyone could propose)
Benefits for the first 10 000 or more (?) merchants who will accept the cryptocurrency NYC since now to the next 1 or 2 years(?)
These are the first merchants who will enjoy the greatest benefits of accepting NYC while taking the minimum risk.
Free decentralized money transfer in 30 seconds
saving on bank transaction fees
saving on bank fraud charges (anti-fraud system, irreversible transaction, no more cancellation of payments by credit card, the customer has no money the transaction is denied)
No limit amount for customers, unlimited ceiling, easy to sell expensive products
New customers around the world, savings and margin
New wealthy customers around the world who will love buying your products(because new crypto rich and because convictions)
New single customers who prefer to buy from you rather than from your neighbor. You get cool for them, fans of cryptocurrency and NYC, and the new rich will thank you as it should. Modern and political values ​​that you do not suspect the magnitude .. Potential invaluable, see Cryptocurrency MarketCap, customers will call you to send your products to the other side of the world even with shipping rates higher than average. A fundamental revolution is underway and it is not $ 5 more on shipping costs that will stop it. Human and political values ​​have always been stronger than personal enrichment in the history of humanity. An invaluable potential of customers around the world (depends on your product but NYC will list all merchants and businesses from around the world on the same list to spread it around the world) US Community, Russian, Japan, China, Korea, Portugal, France, Belgium, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Ukraine, Vietnam, Thailand etc etc etc
Thanks to savings on banking fees, it is possible to lower the selling price and to be more competitive than the competitors. New customers will appear by converting to cryptocurrency to benefit from your new rates. It's inevitable, be part of the first. Possibility of incredible gain for the 1st who will accumulate the most NYC with almost NO RISK.
If you motivate your partners and suppliers to accept NYC, you save even more on transaction costs and save on both levels (upstream and downstream). Savings which serves you to lower the selling price and increase your margin at the same time
Easy to put in place :
Unlike conventional currency, NYC is yours and no one can seize them, not even governments. Indeed, only you know your private address and you have an unlimited number of public addresses (anonymous and no one knows how much NYC you have). Your private key can be compared to a bank account number. You regain control over your money with only a few easy starting arrangements to put in place once. Either you exchange your NYC in bitcoin / ether then in $ with transfer to bank account and declare your income to your government, or transfer in bitcoin on « credit card system online » usable in store and ATM (wirex etc).
Install Wallet QT, + paperwallet for those who likes security, install coinomi, yobit and coinbase account (and others after) and businesses of credit card online. Stikers on your shop, give photos and videos to NYC community and wait new customers to accumulate NYC with no risk
Volatility: If volatility can be considered a real problem in the world of crypto, know that the volatility will be reduced as the use of NYC increases. The price of NYC can only increase and if the world crypto collapses, you will have almost no risk. It's not a fad but a global infatuation. Even if some NYC price drops will happen sometimes, all cryptocurrencies will have to increase in value. And especially NYC with its unique specifics, free and fast bitcoin for Newyorkers, americans and the all world. For proof, despite the incredible increase of the crypto-currencies market cap, we are only at 0.5% of global money flows and bitcoin is only $ 10,000. We are only at the beginning, the beginnings of cryptos. Imagine when crypto accounts for only 1% 2% or 3% of global cash flows. That would mean 1000 billion market cap for 1% of global money flows, 2000 billion market cap for 2% ... 3000 billion Marketcap for 3% of international money flows and so on. Inquire, do you really believe that crypto currencies will stop there? We are not even at the top of the first step of the stairs that leads to the future place of crypto currencies in the space of international monetary flows. This will only happen once in the history of humanity and for a minimum of risk for merchantss who will accept crypto currencies and especially NYC. Simply accept NYC on a small percentage of your cash flow. Do these French, Chinese, Americans who made a fortune by accepting and accumulating bitcoin up to just 5% of its money. Simple hairdresser, restaurateurs, grocers, small merchants…
With expensive product, make small reduction if customers just paid 1,2 or 3% in NYC. No risk and great deal
Opportunity to make a fortune with only 1 customer, like this French hairdresser who knew nothing in 2010 and made a fortune with a single customer to whom she made a small reduction if she paid in bitcoin, just to laugh, just for fun. In 2014, she traded some bitcoin to live as a senior executive and made a real fortune in 2017. Of course, she still has bitcoins well warm and 2 million € on his bank account. All this, without ever buying a single bitcoin, with never take a single risk, just to try and just for fun. Today, with NYC « the Bitcoin for New Yorkers » has fast and free transaction: It is possible to achieve the same feat without the NYC reaches $ 17,000 but only 0.01 or $ 0.10 or 1 $
Example of no risk for merchant: (You do what you want about the risk you want take and you touch people who wants buy cheap and you touch the crypto fan in your city, region and the all world please to the community(growing and growing) who make for you publicity everywhere in every supports that exist in this world !!! Articles, vidéos, photos, prices, websites, stickers, conversations, shares…)
Product A = 100$ in Fiat Same product = 90$ if paid 80% in fiat and 20% in NYC = 72$ + 64 285 NYC Same Product = 80$(or 85$ as you want, you choose) if paid 50% in fiat and 50% in Nyc = 40$ + 142 857 Nyc Minimum risk = Same product at 95$ if paid 90% in fiat and 10% NYC
Objectif owners in the next years: Accumulate : 100 millions NYC = 20 à 25000$ of sell to be millionnaire At NYC price= 0.01$. At one penny = millionnaire Marketcap NYC = 1 320 000 000$
Accumulate 10 millions NYC = 2800$ of sell to be millionnaire at NYC price = 0.10$ At 10 cents = millionnaire at 13 200 000 000 $ Marketcap
Accumulate 1 millions NYC = 280$ of sell to be millionnaire with NYC at 1$ etc…
The best advertisement of all time. The human advertising of a worldwide community that will prompt ordering in your shop. With articles, videos, reports on your store or service that you offer and you win returns in notoriety in your own neighborhood, city, region, country. We send you all these media as soon as you ask if you want to use it on your website, sign or other advertising medium. Or Here on Reddit : post « Merchants news, what we found about you all around the word »
Try to find small vidéos and small articles of owners who made a lot of money with bitcoin with minimum of risk without spend one $ in an exchange ;)
With stimulate merchants with ideas and With this « strategy with no risk » to give to the merchants we can proliferate NYC acceptance really easily. "A small reduction for customers who pay a small part of the price in NYC and we could touch a lot of owners : Target have to be « not just » merchants but
« in all strata of society. It could be the real power of NYC »
Owners of services : Marketing, e-merchants, every coach, independent of anything, human services(big potential here, people who haven’t not much money and there is a real hope for them and can give us examples to give the all word of people accept NYC in all strata of society and show our growing
maid, housekeeper, mason, housework, pet grooming, wellness, used car salesman, seller of anything...Every business man in every domain can see avantages to used NYC, not just pizza sellers or other..
Bars, discothèques, restaurants :
Tourist Shops : Cloths, apparel,
Services
Mp3 finished ;)
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The Strange Birth & History of Monero, Part IV: Monero "as it is now"

You can read here part III.
You can read this whole story translated into Spanish here
This is part IV, the last but not least.
Monero - A secure, private, untreceable cryptocurrency
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0
Notable comments in this thread:
-201: “I would like to offer 1000 MRO to the first person who creates a pool”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6422665#msg6422665)
[tacotime offers bounty to potential pool developer. Bytecoin devs haven’t released any code for pools, and the only existent pool, minergate (in the future related to BCN interests) was closed source]
-256: “Adam back seems to like CryptoNote the better than Zerocash https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/453493394472697856”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6440769#msg6440769)
-264: “update on pools: The NOMP guy (zone117x) is looking to fork his open source software and get a pool going, so one should hopefully be up soon.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6441302#msg6441302)
-273: “Update on GUI: othe from VertCoin has notified me that he is working on it.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6442606#msg6442606)
-356: “Everyone wanting a pool, please help raise a bounty with me here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589533.0
And for the GUI:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.0”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6461533#msg6461533)
[5439 MRO + 0.685 BTC + 5728555.555 BCN raised for pool and 1652 XMR, 121345.46695471 BCN for the GUI wallet. Though this wallet was "rejected" as official GUI because wallet still has to be polished before building a GUI]
-437: “Yes, most Windows users should see a higher hashrate with the new build. You can thank NoodleDoodle. ”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6481202#msg6481202)
-446: “Even faster Windows binaries have just been uploaded. Install for more hash power! Once again, it was NoodleDoodle.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6483680#msg6483680)
-448: “that almost doubled my hashrate again! GREAT STUFF !!!”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6484109#msg6484109)
-461: “Noodle only started optimization today so there may be gains for your CPU in the future.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6485247#msg6485247)
[First day of miner optimization by NoodleDoodle, it is only May 1st]
-706: “The unstoppable NoodleDoodle has optimized the Windows build again. Hashrate should more than double. Windows is now faster than Linux. :O”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6549444#msg6549444)
-753: “i here tft is no longer part of the project. so is he forking or relaunching bytecoin under new name and new parameters (merged mining with flatter emission curve.) also. what is the end consensus for the emission curve for monero. will it be adjusted."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6561345#msg6561345)
[May, 5th 2014. TFT is launching FANTOMCOIN, a clone coin which its "only" feature was merged mining]
-761: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6561941#msg6561941) [May, 5th 2014 – eizh on emission curve and tail emission]
-791: “As promised, I did Russian translation of main topic.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6565521#msg6565521)
[one among dozens of decentralized and “altruist” collaborators of Monero in minor tasks]
-827: image
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6571652#msg6571652)
-853: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6575033#msg6575033)
[some are not happy that NoodleDoodle had only released the built binaries, but not the source code]
-950: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6593768#msg6593768)
[Rias, an account suspected to be related to the Bytecoin scam, dares to tag Monero as “instamine”]
-957: “It's rather bizarre that you're calling this an "instamine" scam when you're so fervently supporting BCN, which was mined 80% before entering the clearnet. Difficulty adjustments are per block, so there is no possibility of an instamine unless you don't publish your blockchain (emission is regular at the preset interval, and scales adequately with the network hash rate). What you're accusing monero of is exactly what ByteCoin did.”
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6594025#msg6594025
[Discussion with rias drags on for SEVERAL posts]
-1016: “There is no "dev team". There is a community of people working on various aspects of the coin.
I've been keeping the repo up to date. NoodleDoodle likes to optimise his miner. TFT started the fork and also assists when things break. othe's been working on a GUI. zone117x has been working on a pool.
It's a decentralized effort to maintain the fork, not a strawman team of leet hackers who dwell in the underbellies of the internet and conspire for instamines.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6596828#msg6596828)
-1023: “Like I stated in IRC, I am not part of the "dev team", I never was. Just so happens I took a look at the code and changed some extremely easy to spot "errors". I then decided to release the binary because I thought MRO would benefit from it. I made this decision individually and nobody else should be culpable”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6597057#msg6597057)
[Noodledoodle gets rid of the instaminer accusations]
-1029: “I decided to relaunch Monero so it will suit all your wishes that you had: flatter emission curve, open source optimized miner for everybody from the start, no MM with BCN/BMR and the name. New Monero will be ready tomorrow”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6597252#msg6597252)
[people trying to capitalize mistakes is always there.]
-1030: "Pull request has been submitted and merged to update miner speed
It appears from the simplicity of the fix that there may have been deliberate crippling of the hashing algorithm from introduction with ByteCoin."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6597460#msg6597460
[tacotime “officially” raises suspects of possible voluntarily crippled miner]
-1053: "I don't mind the 'relaunch' or the merge-mining fork or any other new coin at all. It's inevitable that the CryptoNote progresses like scrypt into a giant mess of coins. It's not undesirable or 'wrong'. Clones fighting out among themselves is actually beneficial for Monero. Although one of them is clearly unserious and trolling by choosing the same name.
Anyway, this sudden solidarity with BCN or TFT sure is strange when none of these accounts were around for the discussions that took place 3 weeks ago. Such vested interests with no prior indications. Hmm...? "
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6599013#msg6599013
[eizh points out the apparent organized fudding]
-1061: "There was no takeover. The original developer (who himself did a fork of bytecoin and around a dozen lines of code changes) was non-responsive and had disappeared. The original name had been cybersquatted all over the place (since the original developer did not even register any domain name much less create a web site), making it impossible to even create a suitably named web site. A bunch of us who didn't want to see the coin die who represented a huge share of the hash power and ownership of the coin decided to adopt it. We reached out to the original developer to participate in this community effort and he still didn't respond over 24 hours, so we decided to act to save the coin from neglect and actively work toward building the coin."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6599798#msg6599798)
[smooth defends legitimacy of current “dev team” and decisions taken]
-1074: “Zerocash will be announced soon (May 18 in Oakland? but open source may not be ready then?).
Here is a synopsis of the tradeoffs compared to CyptoNote: […]"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6602891#msg6602891)
[comparison among Zerocash y Cryptonote]
-1083: "Altcoin history shows that except in the case of premine (Tenebrix), the first implementation stays the largest by a wide margin. We're repeating that here by outpacing Bytecoin (thanks to its 80% mine prior to surfacing). No other CN coin has anywhere near the hashrate or trading volume. Go check diff in Fantom for example or the lack of activity in BCN trading.
The only CN coin out there doing something valuable is HoneyPenny, and they're open source too. If HP develops something useful, MRO can incorporate it as well. Open source gives confidence. No need for any further edge."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6603452#msg6603452)
[eizh reminds everyone the “first mover” advantage is a real advantage]
-1132: "I decided to tidy up bitmonero GitHub rep tonight, so now there is all valuable things from latest BCN commits & Win32. Faster hash from quazarcoin is also there. So BMR rep is the freshest one.
I'm working on another good feature now, so stay tuned."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6619738#msg6619738)
[first TFT apparition in weeks, he somehow pretends to still be the "lead dev"]
-1139: "This is not the github or website used by Monero. This github is outdated even with these updates. Only trust binaries from the first post."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6619971#msg6619971)
[eizh tries to clarify the community, after tft interference, which are the official downloads]
-1140: “The faster hash is from NoodleDoodle and is already submitted to the moner-project github (https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero) and included in the binaries here.
[trying to bring TFT back on board] It would be all easier if you just work together with the other guys, whats the problem? Come to irc and talk like everyone else?
[on future monero exchangers] I got confirmation from one."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6619997#msg6619997)
[8th may 2014, othe announces NoodleDoodle optimized miner is now open source, asks TFT to collaborate and communicates an exchanger is coming]
-1146: "I'll be impressed if they [BCN/TFT shills] manage to come up with an account registered before January, but then again they could buy those.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6620257#msg6620257)
[smooth]
-1150: “Ring signatures mean that when you sign a transaction to spend an output (coins), no one looking at the block chain can tell whether you signed it or one of the other outputs you choose to mix in with yours. With a mixing factor of 5 or 10 after several transactions there are millions of possible coins all mixed together. You get "anonymity" and mixing without having to use a third party mixer.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6620433#msg6620433)
[smooth answering to “what are ring signatures” in layman terms]
-1170: "Someone (C++ skilled) did private optimized miner a few days ago, he got 74H/s for i5 haswell. He pointed that mining code was very un-optimized and he did essential improvements for yourself. So, high H/S is possible yet. Can the dev's core review code for that?"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6623136#msg6623136)
[forums are talking about an individual or group of individuals with optimized miners - may 9th 2014]
-1230: "Good progress on the pool reported by NOMP dev zone117x. Stay tuned, everyone.
And remember to email your favorite exchanges about adding MRO."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6640190#msg6640190)
-1258: "This is actually as confusing to us as you. At one point, thankful_for_today said he was okay with name change: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.msg6368600#msg6368600
Then he disappeared for more than a week after the merge mining vote failed.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6645981#msg6645981)
[eizh on the TFT-issue]
-1358: “Jadehorse: registered on 2014-03-06 and two pages of one line posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263597
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263597;sa=showPosts
Trustnobody: registered on 2014-03-06 and two pages of one line posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=264292
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=264292;sa=showPosts
You guys should really just stop trying. It is quite transparent what you are doing. Or if you want to do it, do it somewhere else. Everyone else: ignore them please."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6666844#msg6666844)
[FUD campaign still ongoing, smooth battles it]
-1387: "The world’s first exchange for Monero just opened! cryptonote.exchange.to"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6675902#msg6675902)
[David Latapie announces an important milestone: exchanger is here]
-1467: "image"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6686125#msg6686125)
[it is weird, but tft appears again, apparently as if he were in a parallel reality]
-1495: “http://monero.cc/blog/monero-price-0-002-passed/”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6691706#msg6691706)
[“trading” milestone reached: monero surpassed for first time 0.002 btc price]
-1513: "There is one and only one coin, formerly called Bitmonero, now called Monero. There was a community vote in favor (despite likely ballot stuffing against). All of the major stakeholders at the time agreed with the rename, including TFT.
The code base is still called bitmonero. There is no reason to rename it, though we certainly could have if we really wanted to.
TFT said he he is sentimental about the Bitmonero name, which I can understand, so I don't think there is any malice or harm in him continuing to use it. He just posted the nice hash rate chart on here using the old name. Obviously he understands that they are one and the same coin."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6693615#msg6693615)
[Smooth clears up again the relation with TFT and BMR. Every time he appears it seems to generate confusion on newbies]
-1543: "Pool software is in testing now. You can follow the progress on the pool bounty thread (see original post on this thread for link)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6698097#msg6698097)
-1545: "[on the tail emission debate] I've been trying to raise awareness of this issue. The typical response seems to be, "when Bitcoin addresses the problem, so will we." To me this means it will never be addressed. The obvious solution is to perpetually increase the money supply, always rewarding miners with new coins.
Tacotime mentioned a hard fork proposal to never let the block reward drop below 1 coin:
Code: if (blockReward < 1){ blockReward = 1; }
I assume this is merely delaying the problem, however. I proposed a fixed annual debasement (say 2%) with a tx fee cap of like 0.001% of the current block reward (or whatever sounds reasonable). That way we still get the spam protection without worrying about fee escalation down the road."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6698879#msg6698879)
[Johnny Mnemonic wants to debate tail emission. Debate is moved to the “Monero Economy” thread]
-1603: “My GOD,the wallet is very very wierd and too complicated to operate, Why dont release a wallet-qt as Bitcoin?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6707857#msg6707857)
[Newbies have hard times with monero]
-1605: "because this coin is not a bitcoin clone and so there isnt a wallet-qt to just copy and release. There is a bounty for a GUI wallet and there is already an experimental windows wallet..."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6708250#msg6708250)
-1611: "I like this about Monero, but it seems it was written by cryptographers, not programmers. The damned thing doesn't even compile on Arch, and there are several bugs, like command history not working on Linux. The crypto ideas are top-notch, but the implementation is not."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6709002#msg6709002)
[Wolf0, a miner developer, little by little joining the community]
-1888: "http://198.199.79.100 (aka moneropool.org) successfully submitted a block. Miners will be paid for their work once payments start working.
P.S. This is actually our second block today. The first was orphaned. :/"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6753836#msg6753836)
[May 16th: first pool block]
-1927: "Botnets aren't problem now. The main problem is a private hi-performance miner"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6759622#msg6759622)
-1927: "Evidence?"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6759661#msg6759661)
[smooth about the private optimized miner]
-1937: “[reference needed: smooth battling the weak evidence of optimized miner] Yes, I remember that. Some person on the Internet saying that some other unnamed person said he did something hardly constitutes evidence.
I'm not even doubting that optimized asm code could make a big difference. Just not sure how to know whether this is real or not. Rumors and FUD are rampant, so it is just hard to tell."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760040#msg6760040)
[smooth does not take the "proof" seriously]
-1949: "image
One i5 and One e5 connected to local pool:
image"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760624#msg6760624)
[proof of optimized miner]
-1953: "lazybear are you interested in a bounty to release the source code (maybe cleaned up a bit?) your optimized miner? If not, I'll probably play around with the code myself tomorrow and see if I can come up with something, or maybe Noodle Doodle will take an interest."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760699#msg6760699)
[smooth tries to bring lazybear and his optimized miner on board]
-1957: "smooth, NoodleDoodle just said on IRC his latest optimizations are 4x faster on Windows. Untested on Linux so far but he'll push the source to the git repo soon. We'll be at 1 million network hashrate pretty soon."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6760814#msg6760814)
[eizh makes publics NoodleDoodle also has more miner optimizations ready]
-1985: “Someone (not me) created a Monero block explorer and announced it yesterday in a separate thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611561.0”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6766206#msg6766206)
[May 16th, 2014: a functional block explorer]
-2018: “Noodle is doing some final tests on Windows and will begin testing on Linux. He expects hashrate should increase across all architectures. I can confirm a 5x increase on an i7 quad-core + Windows 7 64-bit.
Please be patient. These are actual changes to the program, not just a switch that gets flicked on. It needs testing.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6770093#msg6770093)
[eizh has more info on last miner optimization]
-2023: “Monero marketcap is around $300,000 as of now”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6770365#msg6770365)
-2059: I was skeptical of this conspiracy theory at first but after thinking about the numbers and looking back at the code again, I'm starting to believe it.
These are not deep optimizations, just cleaning up the code to work as intended.
At 100 H/s, with 500k iterations, 70 cycles per L3 memory access, we're now at 3.5 GHz which is reasonably close. So the algorithm is finally memory-bound, as it was originally intended to be. But as delivered by the bytecode developers not even close.
I know this is going to sound like tooting our own horn but this is another example of the kind of dirty tricks you can expect from the 80% premine crowd and the good work being done in the name of the community by the Monero developers.
Assuming they had the reasonable, and not deoptimized, implementation of the algorithm as designed all along (which is likely), the alleged "two year history" of bytecoin was mined on 4-8 PCs. It's really one of the shadiest and sleaziest premines scams yet, though this shouldn't be surprising because in every type of scam, the scams always get sneakier and more deceptive over time (the simple ones no longer work)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6773168#msg6773168)
[smooth blowing the lid: if miner was so de-optimized, then BCN adoption was even lower than initially thought]
-2123: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6781481#msg6781481)
[fluffypony first public post in Monero threads]
-2131: "moneropool.org is up to 2KHs, (average of 26Hs per user). But that's still only 0.3% of the reported network rate of 575Khs.
So either a large botnet is mining, or someone's sitting quietly on a much more efficient miner and raking in MRO."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6782192#msg6782192)
[with pools users start to notice that “avg” users account for a very small % of the network hashrate, either botnets or a super-optimized miner is mining monero]
-2137: “I figure its either:
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6782852#msg6782852)
-2192: “New source (0.8.8.1) is up with optimizations in the hashing. Hashrate should go up ~4x or so, but may have CPU architecture dependence. Windows binaries are up as well for both 64-bit and 32-bit."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6788812#msg6788812)
[eizh makes official announce of last miner optimization, it is may 17th]
-2219: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6792038#msg6792038)
[wolf0 is part of the monero community for a while, discussing several topics as botnet mining and miner optimizations. Now spots security flaws in the just launched pools]
-2301: "5x optimized miner released, network hashrate decreases by 10% Make your own conclusions. :|"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6806946#msg6806946)
-2323: "Monero is on Poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_mro"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6808548#msg6808548)
-2747: "Monero is holding a $500 logo contest on 99designs.com now: https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6829109#msg6829109)
-2756: “So... ALL Pools have 50KH/s COMBINED.
Yet, network hash is 20x more. Am i the only one who thinks that some people are insta mining with prepared faster miners?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6829977#msg6829977)
-2757: “Pools aren't stable yet. They are more inefficient than solo mining at the moment. They were just released. 10x optimizations have already been released since launch, I doubt there is much more optimization left.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6830012#msg6830012)
-2765: “Penalty for too large block size is disastrous in the long run.
Once MRO value increases a lot, block penalties will become more critical of an issue. Pools will fix this issue by placing a limit on number and size of transactions. Transaction fees will go up, because the pools will naturally accept the most profitable transactions. It will become very expensive to send with more than 0 mixin. Anonymity benefits of ring signatures are lost, and the currency becomes unusable for normal transactions.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6830475#msg6830475)
-2773: "The CryptoNote developers didn't want blocks getting very large without genuine need for it because it permits a malicious attack. So miners out of self-interest would deliberately restrict the size, forcing the network to operate at the edge of the penalty-free size limit but not exceed it. The maximum block size is a moving average so over time it would grow to accommodate organic volume increase and the issue goes away. This system is most broken when volume suddenly spikes."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6830710#msg6830710)
-3035: "We've contributed a massive amount to the infrastructure of the coin so far, enough to get recognition from cryptonote, including optimizing their hashing algorithm by an order of magnitude, creating open source pool software, and pushing several commits correcting issues with the coin that eventually were merged into the ByteCoin master. We also assisted some exchange operators in helping to support the coin.
To say that has no value is a bit silly... We've been working alongside the ByteCoin devs to improve both coins substantially."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6845545#msg6845545)
[tacotime defends the Monero team and community of accusations of just “ripping-off” others hard-work and “steal” their project]
-3044: "image"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6845986#msg6845986)
[Monero added to coinmarketcap may 21st 2014]
-3059: "You have no idea how influential you have been to the success of this coin. You are a great ambassador for MRO and one of the reasons why I chose to mine MRO during the early days (and I still do, but alas no soup for about 5 days now)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6846509#msg6846509)
[random user thanks smooth CONSTANT presence, and collaboration. It is not all FUD ;)]
-3068: "You are a little too caught up in the mindset of altcoin marketing wars about "unique features" and "the team" behind the latest pump and dump scam.
In fact this coin is really little more than BCN without the premine. "The team" is anyone who contributes code, which includes anyone contributing code to the BCN repository, because that will get merged as well (and vice-versa).
Focus on the technology (by all accounts amazing) and the fact that it was launched in a clean way without 80% of the total world supply of the coin getting hidden away "somewhere." That is the unique proposition here. There also happens to be a very good team behind the coin, but anyone trying too hard to market on the basis of some "special" features, team, or developer is selling you something. Hold on to your wallet."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6846638#msg6846638)
[An answer to those trolls saying Monero has no innovation/unique feature]
-3070: "Personally I found it refreshing that Monero took off WITHOUT a logo or a gui wallet, it means the team wasn't hyping a slick marketing package and is concentrating on the coin/note itself."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6846676#msg6846676)
-3119: “image
[included for the lulz]
-3101: "[…]The main developers are tacotime, smooth, NoodleDoodle. Some needs are being contracted out, including zone117x, LucasJones, and archit for the pool, another person for a Qt GUI, and another person independently looking at the code for bugs."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6848006#msg6848006)
[the initial "core team" so far, eizh post]
-3123: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6850085#msg6850085)
[fluffy steps-in with an interesting dense post. Don’t dare to skip it, worthwhile reading]
-3127: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6850526#msg6850526)
[fluffy again, worth to read it too, so follow link, don’t be lazy]
-3194: "Hi guys - thanks to lots of hard work we have added AES-NI support to the slow_hash function. If you're using an AES-NI processor you should see a speed-up of about 30%.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6857197#msg6857197)
[flufflypony is now pretty active in the xmr topic and announces a new optimization to the crippled miner]
-3202: "Whether using pools or not, this coin has a lot of orphaned blocks. When the original fork was done, several of us advised against 60 second blocks, but the warnings were not heeded.
I'm hopeful we can eventually make a change to more sane 2- or 2.5-minute blocks which should drastically reduce orphans, but that will require a hard fork, so not that easy."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6857796#msg6857796)
[smooth takes the opportunity to remember the need of bigger target block]
-3227: “Okay, optimized miner seems to be working: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619373”
[wolf0 makes public his open source optimized miner]
-3235: "Smooth, I agree block time needs to go back to 2 minutes or higher. I think this and other changes discussed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597878.msg6701490#msg6701490) should be rolled into a single hard fork and bundled with a beautiful GUI wallet and mining tools."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6861193#msg6861193)
[tail emission, block target and block size are discussed in the next few messages among smooth, johnny and others. If you want to know further about their opinions/reasonings go and read it]
-3268: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6862693#msg6862693)
[fluffy dares another user to bet 5 btc that in one year monero will be over dash in market cap. A bet that he would have lost as you can see here https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20150524/ even excluding the 2M “instamined” coins]
-3283: "Most of the previous "CPU only" coins are really scams and the developers already have GPU miner or know how to write one. There are a very few exceptions, almost certainly including this one.
I don't expect a really dominant GPU miner any time soon, maybe ever. GPUs are just computers though, so it is certainly possible to mine this on a GPU, and there probably will be a some GPU miner, but won't be so much faster as to put small scale CPU miners out of business (probably -- absent some unknown algorithmic flaw).
Everyone focuses on botnets because it has been so long since regular users were able to effectively mine a coin (due to every coin rapidly going high end GPU and ASIC) that the idea that "users" could vastly outnumber "miners" (botnet or otherwise) isn't even on the radar.
The vision here is a wallet that asks you when you want to install: "Do you want to devote some of you CPU power to help secure the network. You will be eligible to receive free coins as a reward (recommended) [check box]." Get millions of users doing that and it will drive down the value of mining to where neither botnets nor professional/industrial miners will bother, and Satoshi's original vision of a true p2p currency will be realized.
That's what cryptonote wants to accomplish with this whole "egalitarian mining" concept. Whether it succeeds I don't know but we should give it a chance. Those cryptonote guys seem pretty smart. They've probably thought this through better than any of us have."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6863720#msg6863720)
[smooth vision of a true p2p currency]
-3318: "I have a screen shot that was PMed to me by someone who paid a lot of money for a lot of servers to mine this coin. He won't be outed by me ever but he does in fact exist. Truth."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6865061#msg6865061)
[smooth somehow implies it is not botnets but an individual or a group of them renting huge cloud instances]
-3442: "I'm happy to report we've successfully cracked Darkcoin's network with our new quantum computers that just arrived from BFL, a mere two weeks after we ordered them."
[fluffy-troll]
-3481: “Their slogan is, "Orphaned Blocks, Bloated Blockchain, that's how we do""
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6878244#msg6878244)
[Major FUD troll in the topic. One of the hardest I’ve ever seen]
-3571: "Tacotime wanted the thread name and OP to use the word privacy instead of anonymity, but I made the change for marketing reasons. Other coins do use the word anonymous improperly, so we too have to play the marketing game. Most users will not bother looking at details to see which actually has more privacy; they'll assume anonymity > privacy. In a world with finite population, there's no such thing as anonymity. You're always "1 of N" possible participants.
Zero knowledge gives N -> everyone using the currency, ring signatures give N -> your choice, and CoinJoin gives N -> people who happen to be spending around the same amount of money as you at around the same time. This is actually the critical weakness of CoinJoin: the anonymity set is small and it's fairly susceptible to blockchain analysis. Its main advantage is that you can stick to Bitcoin without hard forking.
Another calculated marketing decision: I made most of the OP about ring signatures. In reality, stealth addressing (i.e. one-time public keys) already provides you with 90% of the privacy you need. Ring signatures are more of a trump card that cannot be broken. But Bitcoin already has manual stealth addressing so the distinguishing technological factor in CryptoNote is the use of ring signatures.
This is why I think having a coin based on CoinJoin is silly: Bitcoin already has some privacy if you care enough. A separate currency needs to go way beyond mediocre privacy improvements and provide true indistinguishably. This is true thanks to ring signatures: you can never break the 1/N probability of guessing correctly. There's no additional circumstantial evidence like with CoinJoin (save for IP addresses, but that's a problem independent of cryptocurrencies)."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6883525#msg6883525)
[Anonymity discussions, specially comparing Monero with Darkcoin and its coinjoin-based solution, keep going on]
-3593: "Transaction fees should be a fixed percentage of the block reward, or at the very least not be controllable by the payer. If payers can optionally pay more then it opens the door for miner discrimination and tx fee bidding wars."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6886770#msg6886770)
[Johnny Mnemonic is a firm defender of fixed fees and tail emission: he see the “fee market” as big danger to the usability of cryptocurrencies]
-3986: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6930412#msg6930412)
[partnership with i2p]
-4373: “Way, way faster version of cpuminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619373”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg6993812#msg6993812)
[super-optimized miner is finally leaked to the public. Now the hashrate is 100 times bigger than originally with crippled miner. The next hedge for "cloud farmers" is GPU mining]
-4877: “1. We have a logo! If you use Monero in any of your projects, you can grab a branding pack here. You can also see it in all its glory right here:
logo […] 4. In order to maintain ISO 4217 compliance, we are changing our ticker symbol from MRO to XMR effective immediately."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7098497#msg7098497)
[Jun 2nd 2014]
-5079: “First GPU miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638915.0”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7130160#msg7130160)
[4th June: Claymore has developed the first CryptoNight open source and publicly available GPU miner]
-5454: "New update to my miner - up to 25% hash increase. Comment and tell me how much of an increase you got from it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632724"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7198061#msg7198061)
[miner optimization is an endless task]
-5464: "I have posted a proposal for fixed subsidy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597878.msg7202538#msg7202538"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7202776#msg7202776)
[Nice charts and discussion proposed by tacotime, worth reading it]
-5658: "- New seed nodes added. - Electrum-style deterministic wallets have been added to help in the recovery of your wallet should you ever need to. It is enabled by default."
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7234475#msg7234475)
[Now you can recover your wallet with a 24 word seed]
-5726: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7240623#msg7240623)
[Bitcoin Pizza in monero version: a 2500 XMR picture sale (today worth ~$20k)]
-6905: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7386715#msg7386715)
[Monero missives: CryptoNote peer review starts whitepaper reviewed)]
-7328: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7438333#msg7438333)
[android monero widget built]
This is a dense digest of the first several thousand messages on the definitive Monero thread.
A lot of things happened in this stressful days and most are recorded here. It can be summarized in this:
  • 28th April: Othe and zone117x assume the GUI wallet and CN pools tasks.
  • 30th April: First NoodleDoodle's miner optimization.
  • 11th May: First Monero exchanger
  • 13th May: Open source pool code is ready.
  • 16th May: First pool mined block.
  • 19th May: Monero in poloniex
  • 20th May: Monero +1100 bitcoin 24h trading volume in Poloniex.
  • 21st May: New official miner optimization x4 speed (accumulated optimization x12-x16). Open source wolf0's CPU miner released.
  • 25th May: partnership with i2p
  • 28th May: The legendary super-optimized miner is leaked. Currently running x90 original speed. Hedge of the "cloud farmers" is over in the cpu mining.
  • 2nd June: Monero at last has a logo. Ticker symbol changes to the definitive XMR (former MRO)
  • 4th June: Claymore's open source GPU miner.
  • 10th June: Monero's "10,000 bitcoin pizza" (2500 XMR paintig). Deterministic seed-based wallets (recover wallet with a 24 word seed)
  • March 2015 – tail emission added to code
  • March 2016 – monero hard forks to 2 min block and doubles block reward
There basically two things in here that can be used to attack Monero:
  • Crippled miner Gave unfair advantage to those brave enough to risk money and time to optimize and mine Monero.
  • Fast curve emission non-bitcoin-like curve as initially advertised and as it was widely accepted as suitable
Though we have to say two things to support current Monero community and devs:
  • The crippled miner was coded either by Bytecoin or CryptoNote, and 100% solved within a month by Monero community
  • The fast curve emission was a TFT miscalculation. He forgot to consider that as he was halving the block target he was unintentionally doubling the emission rate.
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A bunch of resources here about Bitcoin's problems, development and content related to Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.

This is a post involving Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash including /btc and /Bitcoin and anything related to it.
The Bitcoin Whitepaper
PDF
1 The history between btc and bitcoin
Archive link
yours.org link
2 A brief and incomplete history of censorship in /Bitcoin
Archive link
3 User posts on bitcoin about 6900 BTC that theymos stole, post gets removed.
Archive link
4 Go to /noncensored_bitcoin to see posts that have been censored in /bitcoin
5 Theymos caught red-handed - why he censors all the forums he controls, including /bitcoin
Archive link
6 User gets banned from /bitcoin for saying "A $5 fee to send $100 is absolutely ridiculous"
Archive link
7 Greg Maxwell caught using sockpuppets
Archive link
8 [Wikipedia Admins: "[Gregory Maxwell of Blockstream Core] is a very dangerous individual" "has for some time been behaving very oddly and aggressively"](https:// np.reddit.com/btc/comments/74se80/wikipedia_admins_gregory_maxwell_of_blockstream/)
Archive link
9 Remember how lightening network was promised to be ready by summer 2016? https://coinjournal.net/lightning-network-should-be-ready-this-summe
Archive link
10 rBitcoin moderator confesses and comes clean that Blockstream is only trying to make a profit by exploiting Bitcoin and pushing users off chain onto sidechains
Archive link
11 "Blockstream plans to sell side chains to enterprises, charging a fixed monthly fee, taking transaction fees and even selling hardware" source- Adam Back Blockstream CEO
Archive link
Twitter proof
Twitter Archive link
12 September 2017 stats post of bitcoin censorship
Archive link
13 Evidence that the mods of /Bitcoin may have been involved with the hacking and vote manipulation "attack" on /Bitcoin.
Archive link
14 bitcoin mods removed top post: "The rich don't need Bitcoin. The poor do"
Archive link
15 In January 2017, someone paid 0.23 cents for 1 transaction. As of December 2017, fees have peaked $40.
16 Told to kill yourself by Bitcoin for cashing out
17 Bitcoin is a captured system
18 Bot attack against bitcoin was allegedly perpetrated by its own moderator and Blockstream’s Greg Maxwell
19 Remember: Bitcoin Cash is solving a problem Core has failed to solve for 6 years. It is urgently needed as a technical solution, and has nothing to do with "Roger" or "Jihan".
20 Bitcoin Cash has got nothing new.
21 How the Bilderberg Group, the Federal Reserve central bank, and MasterCard took over Bitcoin BTC
More evidence
22 Even Core developers used to support 8-100MB blocks before they work for the Bankers
Proof
23 /Bitcoin loves to call Bitcoin Cash "ChinaCoin", but do they realize that over 70% of BTC hashrate comes from China?
24 /bitcoin for years: No altcoin discussion, have a ban! /bitcoin now: use Litecoin if you actually need to transact!
25 First, they said they want BCH on coinbase so they could dump it. Now they are crying about it because it's pumping.
26 Luke-Jr thinks reducing the blocksize will reduce the fees..
27 Core: Bitcoin isn't for the poor. Bitcoin Cash: we'll take them. Our fees are less than a cent. Core: BCash must die!
28 How The Banks Bought Bitcoin. The Lightning Network
29 Big Blocks Can Scale, But Will It Centralize Bitcoin?
30 "Fees will drop when everyone uses Lightning Networks" is the new "Fees will drop when SegWit is activated"
31 Adam Back let it slip he hires full-time teams of social media shills/trolls
32 The bitcoin civil war is not about block size; it's about freedom vs. authoritarianism
33 Why BCH is the real Bitcoin
34 Segwit does not block ASICBoost. SlushPool supports it.
35 We don't need larger blocks, since lightning will come someday™, the same way we don't need cars or planes since teleporters will come someday™
36 Facts about Adam Back (Bitcoin/Blockstream CEO) you heard it right, he himself thinks he is in charge of Bitcoin.
37 A explaination why Core's vision is different from the real Bitcoin vision
38 The dangerously shifted incentives of SegWit
39 Lighting Network was supposed to be released in 2016
40 You can now store a year's worth of continuously full 8MB blocks for the cost of a single BTC transaction
41 They say we are trying to Kill Bitcoin. No, we are not. We are trying to save it, and make it usable for everyone, and everything. Not tomorrow. Not 6 months from now, Not 18 Months from now. NOW. That's what's going on Here.
42 Miners that want to pull out daily have to switch to BCH due to the fees
43 At $25 #BTC tx fees, if miners want to withdraw their revenue daily, they require a minimum of $140,000 worth of mining hardware to reduce the tx fee to less than 1% of their outgoings. At a $100 tx fee it requires min $560,000. Which is the centralising coin again?
44 Core developer : Bitcoin fees too high? You have invested in early tech! Have faith. Give us time.
45 A redditor even predicted the /bitcoin front page
46 Elizabeth Stark of Lightning Labs admits that a hostile actor can steal funds in LN unless you broadcast a transaction on-chain with a cryptographic proof that recovers the funds. This means LN won't work without a block size limit increase. @8min17s
47 /bitcoin is in uproar about Coinbase not implementing Segwit -> mempool mooning is single handedly Coinbase' fault. So all it takes to bring bitcoin to its knees is a single corporate entity not implementing segwit? Me thinks its not Coinbase there's something wrong with.
48 /bitcoin for years: No altcoin discussion, have a ban! /bitcoin now: use Litecoin if you actually need to transact!
49 $BCH has been attacked in every way possible since it's creation. Exchanges listing it with deceiving names and abbreviations; being dumped by bitcoin holders for over 6 months; and it still managed to close every month positively, while adding numerous new wallet/exchange pairs
50 theymos claims that the whitepaper is a historical artifact not worthy of being on the sidebar of bitcoin
51 Even a Bitcoin conference can't use Bitcoin because of it's high fees
52 185% Growth in Active Addresses for BCH in 1 month, 125% for ETH, -5% for BTC
53 Shapeshift: "Sub-$100 fees unadvisable on BTC." Core supporters: "Implement Segwit already!" Shapeshift: "We did. We're the biggest user of Segwit."
54 How btc and Bitcoin see each other
55 Man who vandalized Bitmain's office hired by Blockstream
56 Bitcoin Cash vs Bitcoin Core compared. Just the facts
57 It was obvious from the very beginning that #Bitcoin transactions were meant to be as cheap as possible. Bitcoin Core has destroyed Bitcoin's usefulness as money by creating a system where $30 fees are celebrated. - @Bitcoin
58 User explains why Core's vision is not the real Bitcoin vision
59 Fake Tweet from the president bashes BCH on /bitcoin front page. Calling it exactly what it is will get you banned.
60 A public appeal to Michael Marquardt the original Theymos.
61 Now they are angry at the CEO of Coinbase for supporting BCH. It's like you are not allowed to have your own opinion without getting attacked.
62 bitcoin user says Bitcoin should not be used as a cryptocurrency
63 The five stages of grief, transaction fees
64 A brief history of the attempted takeover of Bitcoin by BlockstreamCore/The legacy banking systems/The Powers That Be
65 Warning! Theymos admitted he 'misled millions of people' yet he wanna 'leave the text as it is' to mislead more people!
66 "Wait. What? My private keys need to be on an internet-connected computer in order to use Lightning Network?"
67 a year ago Adam Back accused u/Jacktenz of exaggerated claims about fees. The truth is the claims were understated!
68 Roger Ver was not selling explosives, he was selling firecrackers.
69 Core devs pop champaigne, and openly celebrate high fees. Now core supporters blame coinbase for high fees?
70 Now that we've had a few 8MB blocks, let's dispel this centralisation myth once and for all.
71 Reddit admin sodypop on censorship in /Bitcoin: "We generally allow moderators to run their communities how they like as long as they are within our site-wide rules and moderator guidelines." Blatant censorship, hacking, vote manipulation, and brigading are "within [Reddit's] site-wide rules".
72 Another obvious sockpuppet account being used to push Blockstream's agenda.
73 Totally organic grassroots support for the #NO2X "movement." Definitely not a purchased sockpuppet account, you guys.
74 Why Bitcoin Cash
75 If it’s inaccessible to the poor it’s neither radical nor revolutionary.
76 BSCoretabs shills are vandalizing Wikipedia to smear Roger Ver with false quoting, missparaphrasing and accusations.
77 Introducing dipshit extraordinaire Warren Togami, the link between Theymos and BlockStream
78 Debunking: "Blockstream is 3 or 4 developers out of hundreds of developers at Core" - Tone Vays
79 This blockchain debate is purely political and is not about scaling but about control. X-Post from /bitcoin
80 A profile to look at for more evidence
81 What exactly is Blockstream Core's excuse for causing a year of stagnation in Bitcoin with no end in sight?
82 We have a way to build bank-like services.
83 "There is a reason why things are done in a certain way in the financial system, and Bitcoin will be doing something similar"
84 Some thoughts about the possible Bitcoin Segwit, Bilderberg/AXA/BockStream/Core, In-Q-Tel, CIA connection.
85 Theymos on Bitcoin XT
86 (If this is not allowed mods, please remove this text) I cannot verify this yet, but a source has given me information about theymos. theymos is known as Michael Marquardt, from Wisconsin and is a graduate from the University of Wisconsin as a computer-science student.
87 A video that Blockstream does not want you to see
88 A story of how someone was brainwashed
89 Bitcoin Cash is not a scamcoin
90 What /btc is up against
91 OpenBazaar dev explains why they won't implement Lightning Network
92 An extended history of Bitcoin Cash
93 Should I trust Bitcoin Cash ? Roger Ver seems shady
94 /btc gets brigaded and blackmailed
95 Bitcoin Core talking points translated honestly
96 Possible attacks on Bitcoin. One of them did happen
97 How many people are aware that Bitcoin Cash is a manipulation made by Roger Ver, CNBC and Coinbase?
98 Why Rick Falkvinge chose Bitcoin Cash
More from Rick
99 Can Bitcoin Cash scale on-chain?
100 Are bigger blocks better for bigger miners?
101 Jonald Fyookball corrects the misinformation
102 A developer, Luke-Jr, in the Core team is crazy
Thanks to singularity87, 103 to 106. There are more in his link
103 Using the HK agreement to stall miners from adopting bitcoin classic
104 Luke-Jr would be fine with having Jihan Wu executed
105 Theymos threatens to write to the SEC
106 Matt Corallo writes to the SEC to make Core’s BTC the “official” btc.
107 Re: BCH as an altcoin
108 The difference between BTC and BCH
109 Someone asks why Bitcoin Core refuses to increase the blocksize
110 Bitcoin back then : 1, 2, 3, 4
Always remember. You can choose not to support BTC without supporting BCH. This post is intended to show the people the truth. If you already know and you don't care, then you might as well choose not to comment.
BCH has been constantly under attack by FUD and misinformation from many people in this subreddit including /Bitcoin. Everything is now debunked.
For those that are lazy to go through all of the links, just read #1 and go to https://derekmagill.com/bitcoin for shorter content.
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